{"id":71,"date":"2024-05-06T06:29:06","date_gmt":"2024-05-06T06:29:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/?p=71"},"modified":"2024-05-06T08:46:29","modified_gmt":"2024-05-06T08:46:29","slug":"xabier-arozena-venezuela-erresuma-batua-1943-2004","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/xabier-arozena-venezuela-erresuma-batua-1943-2004\/","title":{"rendered":"XABIER AROZENA [Venezuela, Erresuma Batua, 1943-2004]"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/101199a5-c32b-d8ce-d53c-925ebd114b1b_300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-67 size-full\"\/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\"><p><strong>Date of the interview:<\/strong> 5\/19\/2012<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee:<\/strong> Xabier Arozena Gorostegui<\/p><p><strong>Interviewer:<\/strong> Catalina Uzcanga &#038; Pedro J. Oiarzabal<\/p><p><strong>Language:<\/strong> Espa\u00f1ol \/ Gaztelania<\/p><\/div><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull descripcion-completa is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" id=\"descripcion-completa\"><h3 class='wp-block-heading'>Description<\/h3><p>Despu&eacute;s de perder la Guerra Civil (1936-1939) los padres de Xabier Arozena se trasladaron de Barcelona a Bidarte (Lapurdi) y, de ah&iacute; emigraron a Caracas (Venezuela), donde el 26 de marzo de 1943 nacer&iacute;a el protagonista de esta historia. Xabier relata el viaje realizado por sus padres y sus inicios en el pa&iacute;s de destino, donde no tuvieron problema alguno para adaptarse (gente abierta, trabajo en la hacienda&hellip;), al tiempo que manten&iacute;an una relaci&oacute;n muy estrecha con la familia que viv&iacute;a en Euskadi, ayud&aacute;ndoles econ&oacute;micamente. R&aacute;pidamente se cre&oacute; una asociaci&oacute;n de socorros para promover la ayuda mutua entre vascos en Venezuela y que se convertir&iacute;a en el germen del Centro Vasco de Caracas creado en 1952.<\/p><p><\/p><p>Xabier menciona las m&uacute;ltiples actividades culturales y sociales, as&iacute; como las fiestas vascas que celebraban en el Centro Vasco de Caracas, donde iba los fines de semana junto a su familia. Educado en un colegio jesuita en casa sol&iacute;an hablar en euskera, aunque se&ntilde;ala que el idioma predominante en el Centro Vasco era el castellano. Su relaci&oacute;n con la comunidad vasca era muy buena, tal y como se&ntilde;ala el propio Xabier: &ldquo;Es como el jard&iacute;n que t&uacute; lo cultivas, y aita nos transmiti&oacute; un sentido de pertenencia al Centro Vasco y una identificaci&oacute;n muy, muy intensa&rdquo;, aunque no duda en calificarlo como ghetto, con los aspectos positivos y negativos que conlleva. Fue precisamente aqu&iacute; donde, al igual que sus hermanos, conoci&oacute; a la que se convertir&iacute;a en su mujer y con la que tendr&iacute;a a sus tres hijos: Maitane, Unai y Ainara.<\/p><p><\/p><p>En 1975 visit&oacute; por primera vez Euskadi junto a su familia y volvi&oacute; mientras estudiaba un posgrado en Inglaterra, fue entonces cuando decidi&oacute; quedarse aqu&iacute;, aunque la idea no se materializar&iacute;a hasta muchos a&ntilde;os despu&eacute;s. Pese a ganar mucho dinero en Venezuela, la inseguridad en el pa&iacute;s crec&iacute;a y surgi&oacute; la oportunidad de retornar, ante la incomprensi&oacute;n en su entorno laboral, &eacute;l explicaba: &ldquo;Me voy a lo que son mis or&iacute;genes, es decir, yo necesito. 60 a&ntilde;os se los dediqu&eacute; a Venezuela, mis pr&oacute;ximos 60 a&ntilde;os se los voy a dedicar a Euskadi, as&iacute; que eso es lo que yo he so&ntilde;ado toda la vida y he querido salir&rdquo;&nbsp;.<\/p><p><\/p><p>Cuando volvi&oacute; a Euskadi no tuvo problemas burocr&aacute;ticos y continu&oacute; ejerciendo de m&eacute;dico, aunque le result&oacute; dif&iacute;cil romper con la imagen so&ntilde;adora que ten&iacute;a de Euskadi: la manera de ser de los vascos contrasta con el car&aacute;cter abierto de los venezolanos, sorprendido de que la gente que sabe euskera no lo hable y decepcionado con el movimiento nacionalista. Ante la dif&iacute;cil situaci&oacute;n laboral actual, en un futuro no descarta abrir su propio negocio en Estados Unidos (EEUU), donde actualmente reside su hija.<\/p><\/div><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Interviewee&#8217;s distination<\/h3><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination city:<\/strong> Caracas<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination country:<\/strong> Venezuela<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination region:<\/strong> Distrito Capital<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination city:<\/strong> ?<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination country:<\/strong> Erresuma Batua \/ Reino Unido \/ United Kingdom<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination region:<\/strong> ?<\/p><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Key dates<\/h3><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1940<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Sus padres emigran en el primer barco a Venezuela<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1940<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Sus padres llegan a Caracas con dos de sus hijos, Yosu y Mikel<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1952<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Hasta este a\u00f1o tienen una oficina de Centro Vasco, y ese a\u00f1o construyen el Centro<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1974<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Fallece su madre<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1975<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Primera visita a Euskadi<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1976<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Toma la decisi\u00f3n de instalarse definitivamente en Euskadi<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1989<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Fallece su padre<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 2004<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Retorna definitivamente<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 2008<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Vuelve a Venezuela a resolver un problema<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 2012<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Su mujer viaja a Estados Unidos donde vive su hija<\/p><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Interviewee&#8217;s origin<\/h3><p><strong>Country of the interview:<\/strong> Venezuela<\/p><p><strong>Region of the interview:<\/strong> Distrito Capital<\/p><p><strong>City of the interview:<\/strong> Caracas<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Place of the interview<\/h3><p><strong>Country of the interview:<\/strong> Euskadi<\/p><p><strong>Region of the interview:<\/strong> Gipuzkoa<\/p><p><strong>City of the interview:<\/strong> Donostia \/ San Sebasti\u00e1n<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><\/h3><p><strong>People mentioned in the interview:<\/strong> Yosu\t \tArocena, Mikel\t \tArozena, Ainara\t \tArozena, Unai\t \tArozena, Unai\t \tAzpiritxaga, Triki \t \tAzpiritxaga, Mikel\t \tde Viana, Xabiel\t \tLeizaola, Marcos\t \tP\u00e9rez\t \tJimenez, Guillermo\t \tRamos, Arturo\t \tTapia, Mart\u00edn \t \tUgalde<\/p><p><strong>Places mentioned in the interview:<\/strong> Ameriketako Estatu Batuak\t \/ \tEstados Unidos\t \/ \tUnited States of America USA, Ingalaterra\t \/ \tInglaterra\t \/ \tEngland, Norvegia\t \/ \tNoruega\t \/ \tNorge \/ Noreg, Bartzelona\t \/ \tBarcelona, Bidarte\t \/ \tBidart, Donostia\t \/ \tSan Sebasti\u00e1n, Euskadi\t \/ \tPa\u00eds Vasco, Txile\t \/ \tChile, Argentina, Australia, Azkoitia, Azpeitia, Bah\u00eda de la Plata, Caracas, Centro Vasco (De Truco a Balconcito), Hernani, Hondarribia, Irun, Lasarte &#8211; Oria, Ondarroa, Panam\u00e1, Tolosa, Venezuela, Zarautz, Zumaia<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><p><strong>Categories:<\/strong><ul class=\"post-categories\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/basque\/\" title=\"Basque\">Basque<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/basque-associations-and-centres\/\" title=\"Basque associations and centres\">Basque associations and centres<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/childhood-youth\/\" title=\"Childhood\/Youth\">Childhood\/Youth<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/education\/\" title=\"Education\">Education<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/exile\/\" title=\"Exile\">Exile<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/francos-dictatorship\/\" title=\"Franco&#039;s dictatorship\">Franco&#039;s dictatorship<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/future-prospects\/\" title=\"Future prospects\">Future prospects<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/journey-to-destination\/\" title=\"Journey to destination\">Journey to destination<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/latin-america\/\" title=\"Latin America\">Latin America<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/leisure-festivities-and-folklore\/\" title=\"Leisure, festivities and folklore\">Leisure, festivities and folklore<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/living-in-another-country\/\" title=\"Living in another country\">Living in another country<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/migratory-background\/\" title=\"Migratory background\">Migratory background<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/music\/\" title=\"Music\">Music<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/permanent-return\/\" title=\"Permanent return\">Permanent return<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/spanish-civil-war\/\" title=\"Spanish Civil War\">Spanish Civil War<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/temporary-visits\/\" title=\"Temporary visits\">Temporary visits<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/the-basque-community\/\" title=\"The Basque community\">The Basque community<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/work\/\" title=\"Work\">Work<\/a><\/li><\/ul>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Date of the interview: 5\/19\/2012 Interviewee: Xabier Arozena Gorostegui Interviewer: Catalina Uzcanga &#038; 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