{"id":500,"date":"2024-05-06T06:39:42","date_gmt":"2024-05-06T06:39:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/?p=500"},"modified":"2024-05-06T08:42:41","modified_gmt":"2024-05-06T08:42:41","slug":"jon-xarles-meabebasterretxea-estatu-batuak-1988-1991","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/jon-xarles-meabebasterretxea-estatu-batuak-1988-1991\/","title":{"rendered":"JON XARLES MEABEBASTERRETXEA [Estatu Batuak, 1988-1991]"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"224\" src=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/5e9402cb-ad1a-9960-6477-b4dd779fdd0d_300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-496 size-full\"\/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\"><p><strong>Date of the interview:<\/strong> 11\/19\/2013<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee:<\/strong> Jon Xarles Meabebasterretxea Uberuaga<\/p><p><strong>Interviewer:<\/strong> Ainara Puerta Larra\u00f1aga<\/p><p><strong>Language:<\/strong> Euskera \/ Euskara<\/p><\/div><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull descripcion-completa is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" id=\"descripcion-completa\"><h3 class='wp-block-heading'>Description<\/h3><p>Jon Xarles Meabebasterretxea naci&oacute; el 17 de julio de 1970 en la localidad vizca&iacute;na de Durango, donde transcurri&oacute; su infancia hasta que en 1988, a punto de cumplir la mayor&iacute;a de edad, emigr&oacute; a Estados Unidos como pastor. De este modo, segu&iacute;a los pasos de su padre, que hab&iacute;a desempe&ntilde;ado esa profesi&oacute;n durante doce a&ntilde;os, y al que perdi&oacute; poco antes de tomar la decisi&oacute;n. Preguntado sobre las an&eacute;cdotas que les contaba su padre, tanto a su hermana Mar&iacute;a Jes&uacute;s como a &eacute;l, sobre su modo de vida en Estados Unidos, nos cuenta que: &ldquo;Batzutan, esate baterako, ba nire aittek ez zeukan ulerik, eta &ldquo;aitte, zergaitik ez dekozu ulerik?&rdquo; Eta: Ez, Ameriketan haiziek erusten! Da holako gauzak&rdquo; (A veces, por ejemplo, mi padre no ten&iacute;a pelo, y &ldquo;pap&aacute;, &iquest;por qu&eacute; no tienes pelo?&rdquo; Y: no, &iexcl;el viento me lo llev&oacute; en Am&eacute;rica! Y ese tipo de cosas).<\/p><p><\/p><p>Todav&iacute;a sonr&iacute;e al recordar que en su entorno cercano no le ve&iacute;an capaz de cruzar el Atl&aacute;ntico y desenvolverse por s&iacute; mismo durante los tres a&ntilde;os que duraba el contrato de pastor. Su t&iacute;o Pedro, que llevaba quince a&ntilde;os en el pa&iacute;s, le ayud&oacute; previamente con el tema del papeleo y encontrarle la empresa m&aacute;s adecuada. Despu&eacute;s de vivir un mes en una peque&ntilde;a casa a la que cari&ntilde;osamente llamaba &ldquo;Hotel Miravalles&rdquo; por las hermosas vistas que ten&iacute;a, Jon se hizo cargo de un reba&ntilde;o de 1000 ovejas y 1000 corderos.<\/p><p><\/p><p>Jon reconoce que: &ldquo;Lehenengotan ze pasatzen da? Ba, zu zauz, zu Ameriketan zauz ta zure burue oraindi&ntilde;o Euskal Herrien. Burue beranduo allaten da&rdquo; (&iquest;Al principio qu&eacute; sucede? Pues, que est&aacute;s t&uacute;, t&uacute; est&aacute;s en Am&eacute;rica y tu cabeza todav&iacute;a en el Pa&iacute;s Vasco. La mente llega m&aacute;s tarde). Cree que en su caso necesit&oacute; alrededor de seis meses o un a&ntilde;o para habituarse a su nueva vida, en las que aprendi&oacute; a desenvolverse por s&iacute; mismo: desde cocinar hasta c&oacute;mo habituarse a la soledad (Patxi y el perro eran sus &uacute;nicos amigos), cuidar de las ovejas o jugar con una serpiente cascabel. Jon lo resume as&iacute;: &ldquo;Hor ikasi dut dana, e dana: panadero, carnicero, meteor&oacute;logo, sastre&hellip; dana&rdquo; (All&iacute; lo he aprendido todo, eh, todo: panadero, carnicero, meteor&oacute;logo, sastre&hellip; todo). Tambi&eacute;n nos explica sus primeras impresiones y las diferencias que encontraba entre Estados Unidos y el Pa&iacute;s Vasco. Entretanto tambi&eacute;n le visitaron su madre y su hermana, aprovechando para visitar Yellowstone.<\/p><p><\/p><p>Jon explica que: &ldquo;Da gero ya in nabenin burue ta gorputze bertarako, ya norbera hona, atzera. Gero hemen, da burue han&rdquo; (Y luego cuando la mente y el cuerpo ya se han habituado, ya uno regresa aqu&iacute;. Luego est&aacute;s t&uacute; aqu&iacute;, y la mente all&iacute;). A pesar de que inicialmente deb&iacute;a volver a mediados de 1991, su amigo pastor Patxi insisti&oacute; en que se quedase, as&iacute; que el encargado Jos&eacute; Luis Arrieta consigui&oacute; prolongarle el contrato seis meses m&aacute;s.<\/p><p><\/p><p>Relata sus primeras impresiones cuando regres&oacute;, y explica que la experiencia de pastor le ha permitido valorar m&aacute;s todo empezando por una simple mesa, que le permite a uno comer de forma m&aacute;s c&oacute;moda. Reconoce que: &ldquo;Edozein lanetako esperientzia da hori esperientzie. Ta azkenien hor zapatu, domeka, San Pedro, San Juan&hellip; mendixen zauz hogeita lau ordu&rdquo; (Es una experiencia para cualquier tipo de trabajo. Y al final est&aacute;s all&iacute; s&aacute;bado, domingo, San Pedro, San Juan&hellip; est&aacute;s en el monte las veinticuatro horas del d&iacute;a), y puede que eso explique el hecho de que se encadenase trabajos f&iacute;sicos duros desde su llegada. Mirando hacia atr&aacute;s, la experiencia de haber emigrado ha supuesto: &ldquo;Dana, ez dakit zelan esan, bildur guztiyek kendute ya&rdquo; (Todo, no s&eacute; c&oacute;mo explicarlo, sin ning&uacute;n miedo).<\/p><\/div>\n            <figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-gestor-del-servicio wp-block-embed-gestor-del-servicio wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n            <iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Jon Xarles Meabebasterretxea. Ondare Bizia\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/x_TsjmQyBgo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n            <\/div><\/figure>\n            <h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Interviewee&#8217;s distination<\/h3><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination city:<\/strong> ?<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination country:<\/strong> Estatu Batuak \/ Estados Unidos \/ United States<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination region:<\/strong> Idaho<\/p><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Key dates<\/h3><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1972<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Patxi Lezamiz llega a Estados Unidos<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1991<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Jon regresa a Durango desde Estados Unidos<\/p><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Interviewee&#8217;s origin<\/h3><p><strong>Country of the interview:<\/strong> Euskadi<\/p><p><strong>Region of the interview:<\/strong> Bizkaia<\/p><p><strong>City of the interview:<\/strong> Durango<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Place of the interview<\/h3><p><strong>Country of the interview:<\/strong> Euskadi<\/p><p><strong>Region of the interview:<\/strong> Bizkaia<\/p><p><strong>City of the interview:<\/strong> Durango<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><\/h3><p><strong>People mentioned in the interview:<\/strong> Jos\u00e9 Luis \t \tArrieta, Irene\t \tAruin, Karl\t \tLewis, Patxi\t \tLezamiz, Mar\u00eda Jes\u00fas\t \tUberuaga, Pedro \t \tUberuaga<\/p><p><strong>Places mentioned in the interview:<\/strong> Ameriketako Estatu Batuak\t \/ \tEstados Unidos\t \/ \tUnited States of America USA, Kalifornia\t \/ \tCalifornia, Madril\t \/ \tMadrid, New York\t \/ \tNueva York, Boise, Chicago, Durango, Idaho, Montana, Oiz, Salt Lake City<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><p><strong>Categories:<\/strong><ul class=\"post-categories\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/category\/america\/\" title=\"Am\u00e9rica\">Am\u00e9rica<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/category\/arrival-and-welcome\/\" title=\"Arrival and welcome\">Arrival and welcome<\/a><\/li><li><a 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