{"id":197,"date":"2024-05-06T06:32:43","date_gmt":"2024-05-06T06:32:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/?p=197"},"modified":"2024-05-06T08:44:57","modified_gmt":"2024-05-06T08:44:57","slug":"jose-fagoaga-estatu-batuak-1981-gaur-egun","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/jose-fagoaga-estatu-batuak-1981-gaur-egun\/","title":{"rendered":"JOS\u00c9 FAGOAGA [Estatu Batuak, 1981 &#8211; gaur egun]"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/cbba5def-73b9-9866-ae69-2ea747614441_300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-193 size-full\"\/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\"><p><strong>Date of the interview:<\/strong> 7\/11\/2012<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee:<\/strong> Jos\u00e9 Fagoaga Bergara<\/p><p><strong>Interviewer:<\/strong> Ainara Puerta Larra\u00f1aga<\/p><p><strong>Language:<\/strong> Euskera \/ Euskara<\/p><\/div><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull descripcion-completa is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" id=\"descripcion-completa\"><h3 class='wp-block-heading'>Description<\/h3><p>Jos&eacute; Fagoaga, nacido el 4 de diciembre de 1942 en Aranaz (Arantza), fue el cuarto de siete hermanos y hermanas. Se cr&iacute;o en el caser&iacute;o Galtzada, ayudando en las labores de ganader&iacute;a. En el a&ntilde;o 1981, Jos&eacute; decidi&oacute; emigrar a Estados Unidos, donde ya se encontraba su hermano Isidro. Isidro logr&oacute; realizar con un abogado las gestiones para que Jos&eacute; pudiera ir y, de esta forma, &eacute;l llego con un contrato de trabajo de tres a&ntilde;os, como pastor. En aquella &eacute;poca, los emigrantes espa&ntilde;oles a Estados Unidos eran muchos, por lo que hab&iacute;a un cupo reducido. Adem&aacute;s, deb&iacute;a presentarse el pasaje de vuelta con antelaci&oacute;n para que, en caso de que la persona quisiera regresar, los gastos estuvieran pagados. Jos&eacute; recuerda el trayecto desde Aranaz a Elko, incluyendo varios viajes en avi&oacute;n: &ldquo;Vinimos desde Madrid a Nueva York. Luego, desde Nueva York a Salt Lake, y desde Salt Lake a Elko en un peque&ntilde;o avi&oacute;n. Yo llegu&eacute; as&iacute;, pero hab&iacute;a algunos que iban a Idaho, otros a Colorado, otros a Arizona. Iban a muchas provincias, a muchos estados.&rdquo; Jos&eacute; recuerda la ayuda que les prestaron los cubanos en los aeropuertos, ya que sab&iacute;an castellano e ingl&eacute;s.<\/p><p><\/p><p>Empez&oacute; a trabajar con las ovejas de inmediato, en el rancho de Korta &ldquo;Korta Ranch&rdquo; y recuerda que pudo adaptarse f&aacute;cilmente gracias a su hermano, que fue su campero durante el primer a&ntilde;o. El trabajo de pastor era un trabajo solitario, que se realizaba en parejas en invierno y en solitario en verano. Caminaban durante meses por caminos de monte con caballos, perros y m&aacute;s de mil ovejas. Tras tres a&ntilde;os, Jos&eacute; tuvo que regresar a Bilbao ya que finalizaba el permiso para permanecer en Estados Unidos. Tras una estancia de un mes, regres&oacute; de nuevo a Estados Unidos para trabajar de pastor y, gracias a esto, se pudo librar de realizar el servicio militar. Jos&eacute; recuerda que su primer sueldo fue de 185 &ldquo;pesos&rdquo;, el m&iacute;nimo que por ley pod&iacute;an pagarle. Este sueldo era lo justo para poder vivir como pastor, sin embargo, s&iacute; era una cantidad importante al cambio del d&oacute;lar a la peseta espa&ntilde;ola.<\/p><p><\/p><p>Los d&iacute;as en los que bajaban al pueblo, a Elko, los vascos se juntaban en el &ldquo;Star Hotel&rdquo;, en el que muchos de ellos viv&iacute;an. El restaurante del hotel ten&iacute;a zonas y men&uacute; diferenciado para los estadounidenses y para los vascos: &ldquo;El Star Hotel tiene su propio rinc&oacute;n donde el vasco come diferente. Eso sale m&aacute;s barato, todos los americanos comen de carta. (&hellip;) Para nosotros, los vascos, tocan una campana &ldquo;pon-po-po-pon&rdquo; y una extraordinaria cuadrilla com&iacute;amos aparte, aquello sol&iacute;a ser m&aacute;s barato. Los americanos comen los steak y lo mejorcito. Y aprovechaban con nosotros el resto de alimentos, m&aacute;s barato y mucha cantidad.&rdquo;&nbsp; Durante estos a&ntilde;os, Jos&eacute; ha mantenido algunas costumbres vascas como jugar al mus o vestirse con trajes t&iacute;picos para celebrar fiestas. Para ello, es miembro de la asociaci&oacute;n Elko Euskaldunak. Actualmente, Jos&eacute; es el &uacute;nico vasco que sigue viviendo en el Star Hotel y lamenta que ya no sea tan concurrido: &ldquo;Una gran cuadrilla, los mayores, los retirados, viv&iacute;an aqu&iacute;. Y nosotros aqu&iacute; desapareciendo. Unos se fueron a Espa&ntilde;a, otros fallecen. &iexcl;Se acab&oacute;! No llegan nuevo, &iexcl;se acab&oacute; la funci&oacute;n!&rdquo;<\/p><p><\/p><p>Despu&eacute;s de 17 a&ntilde;os trabajando para Henry Korta en Elko, Jos&eacute; trabajo durante otros 10 a&ntilde;os cuidando ovejas en Utah y California. Despu&eacute;s de casi tres d&eacute;cadas trabajando como pastor en diferentes estados, comenz&oacute; a trabajar en Elko como limpiador de escuelas, entre ellas una escuela llamada North Site. Durante este tiempo, Jos&eacute; ha vuelto en dos ocasiones al Pa&iacute;s Vasco, a visitar la familia. En los &uacute;ltimos a&ntilde;os, ha estado pensando en regresar definitivamente, pero eso es algo que sopesar&aacute; cuando se jubile. De momento, opina que el coste de la vida es demasiado alto en el Pa&iacute;s Vasco.<\/p><\/div><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Interviewee&#8217;s distination<\/h3><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination city:<\/strong> Elko<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination country:<\/strong> Estatu Batuak \/ Estados Unidos \/ United States<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination region:<\/strong> Nevada<\/p><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><\/h3><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Interviewee&#8217;s origin<\/h3><p><strong>Country of the interview:<\/strong> Espainia \/ Espa\u00f1a<\/p><p><strong>Region of the interview:<\/strong> Nafarroa \/ Navarra<\/p><p><strong>City of the interview:<\/strong> Arantza<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Place of the interview<\/h3><p><strong>Country of the interview:<\/strong> Estatu Batuak \/ Estados Unidos \/ United States<\/p><p><strong>Region of the interview:<\/strong> Nevada<\/p><p><strong>City of the interview:<\/strong> Elko<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><\/h3><p><strong>People mentioned in the interview:<\/strong> Isidro \t \tFagoaga, &#8221; \tPatxiku\t &#8220;, Henry \t \tKorta, Joxe Mari\t \tZagazuga<\/p><p><strong>Places mentioned in the interview:<\/strong> Arantza\t \/ \tAranaz, Donostia\t \/ \tSan Sebasti\u00e1n, Kalifornia\t \/ \tCalifornia, Madril\t \/ \tMadrid, New York\t \/ \tNueva York, Bilbao, Elko, Lesaka, Salt Lake City, Irun, Sunbilla, Utah<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><p><strong>Categories:<\/strong><ul class=\"post-categories\"><li><a 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