{"id":188,"date":"2024-05-06T06:32:39","date_gmt":"2024-05-06T06:32:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/?p=188"},"modified":"2024-05-06T08:46:13","modified_gmt":"2024-05-06T08:46:13","slug":"jesus-lopategui-estatu-batuak-1957-gaur-egun","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/en\/jesus-lopategui-estatu-batuak-1957-gaur-egun\/","title":{"rendered":"JES\u00daS LOPATEGUI [Estatu Batuak, 1957 &#8211; gaur egun]"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/ondarebizia.deusto.es\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/05\/02e0cf2f-18f6-abc1-f83c-58243284ba9a_300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-184 size-full\"\/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\"><p><strong>Date of the interview:<\/strong> 7\/11\/2012<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee:<\/strong> Jes\u00fas (Jess) Lopategui Laucirica<\/p><p><strong>Interviewer:<\/strong> Ainara Puerta Larra\u00f1aga<\/p><p><strong>Language:<\/strong> Euskera \/ Euskara<\/p><\/div><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull descripcion-completa is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" id=\"descripcion-completa\"><h3 class='wp-block-heading'>Description<\/h3><p>Jes&uacute;s Lopategui naci&oacute; el 4 de noviembre de 1938 en el seno de una familia de diez hermanos en la localidad vizca&iacute;na de Muxika, donde transcurri&oacute; su infancia hasta que con 19 a&ntilde;os emigr&oacute; a Estados Unidos como pastor. Nos describe detalladamente la vida que llevaba un pastor con un reba&ntilde;o de 2.000-2.500 ovejas en los montes de Elko (Nevada) durante los tres a&ntilde;os y medio que dur&oacute; su primera contrata. Jes&uacute;s resta importancia a las duras condiciones de vida, afirmando que: &ldquo;lana ez da gogorra, tristiago bakardadia, denbora asko ite genuan horrela, esaterako lehenengo hamar hilabete osuak egin nitun herrira edo inor ikusi gabe&rdquo; (el trabajo no es duro, lo triste suele ser la soledad, pas&aacute;bamos mucho tiempo as&iacute;, por ejemplo: los diez primeros meses estuve sin ir al pueblo o ver a nadie).<\/p><p><\/p><p>En junio de 1961, tras finalizar el primer contrato volvi&oacute; a Muxika con la intenci&oacute;n de regresar a Estados Unidos, y dos meses despu&eacute;s se desped&iacute;a de su hermano Jon en la estaci&oacute;n de tren de Bilbao. Hoy es el d&iacute;a en que, con una medio sonrisa, recuerda el consejo que le di&oacute; a Jon en ese momento, viendo sus intenciones de emigrar a Estados Unidos para hacer dinero: &ldquo;Erabakitzen badezu etortzia, badakit egingo deu berba zuk etortzeko; ba&ntilde;a izan zuan orduan Amaia neska-laguna. Amaiakin ezkondu ta Gernikan bizi nahi badezu, ez etorri&rdquo; (Si decides venir, lo arreglaremos para que t&uacute; puedas venir, pero entonces ten&iacute;a una novia llamada Amaia. Si deseas casarte con Amaia y vivir en Gernika, no vengas).<\/p><p><\/p><p>La segunda vez, que emigr&oacute; a Estados Unidos regres&oacute; a Elko a trabajar en la misma compa&ntilde;&iacute;a en la que estuvo anteriormente, donde permaneci&oacute; otros tres a&ntilde;os y medio. Despu&eacute;s, encaden&oacute; distintos trabajos hasta que cogi&oacute; un negocio de herrer&iacute;a en el que transcurri&oacute; los &uacute;ltimos 25 a&ntilde;os de su vida laboral. Asimismo, nos explica su relaci&oacute;n con la comunidad vasca y, desde su condici&oacute;n de miembro de varios clubs vascos del pa&iacute;s, su participaci&oacute;n en actividades vascas.<\/p><p><\/p><p>Desde que vive en Elko ha regresado varias veces a su localidad natal, con su familia generalmente (mujer y dos hijos), pero subraya que las dos &uacute;ltimas veces no le ha gustado demasiado Euskadi que se ha encontrado: &ldquo;Euskal Herria ez da lehen guk bihotzean ekarri genuen bezalako Euskal Herria gaur egunian&rdquo; (Euskadi actual no es el mismo Euskadi que nosotros trajimos en nuestro coraz&oacute;n). Jes&uacute;s se muestra satisfecho con su elecci&oacute;n de vivir en el continente americano, afirmando que: &ldquo;Ameriketak eman ahal dizuna da zerbait, lasaitasuna edo askatasuna bezala&rdquo; (Lo que Am&eacute;rica puede proporcionarte es algo, parecido a la tranquilidad o la libertad).<\/p><\/div><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Interviewee&#8217;s distination<\/h3><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination city:<\/strong> Elko<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination country:<\/strong> Estatu Batuak \/ Estados Unidos \/ United States<\/p><p><strong>Interviewee\u2019s destination region:<\/strong> Nevada<\/p><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Key dates<\/h3><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1957<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Jes\u00fas llega a Elko (14 de diciembre)<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1958<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Va al monte a trabajar de pastor (2 de enero)<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1959<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Se funda el Elko Euzkaldunak Club<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1961<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Jes\u00fas regresa a su pueblo natal y permanece 3 meses (del 23 de junio al 14 de septiembre)<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1961<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Fallece el padre de Jes\u00fas (diciembre)<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1965<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Jes\u00fas se traslada a San Francisco<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 1966<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Llega a Elko<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 2005<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Vende su negocio<\/p><\/div><div class=\"wp-block-group grupoEntrevista is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Year:<\/strong> 2010<\/p><p><strong>Event:<\/strong> Fallece el suegro de Jes\u00fas<\/p><\/div><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Interviewee&#8217;s origin<\/h3><p><strong>Country of the interview:<\/strong> Euskadi<\/p><p><strong>Region of the interview:<\/strong> Bizkaia<\/p><p><strong>City of the interview:<\/strong> Muxika<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Place of the interview<\/h3><p><strong>Country of the interview:<\/strong> Estatu Batuak \/ Estados Unidos \/ United States<\/p><p><strong>Region of the interview:<\/strong> Nevada<\/p><p><strong>City of the interview:<\/strong> Reno<\/p><hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/><h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><\/h3><p><strong>People mentioned in the interview:<\/strong> Manuel\t \tArbillaga, Denise \t \tArregui, Sam\t \tEtcheverry, Calisto\t \tLauzerica, Jon \t \tLopategui, Maite\t \tLopategui, Mikel Jon\t \tLopategui, Jos\u00e9\t \tMadariaga<\/p><p><strong>Places mentioned in the interview:<\/strong> New York\t \/ \tNueva York, Gernika &#8211; Lumo, Muxika, Madril\t \/ \tMadrid, Nevada, San Francisco, Berriatua, Iparralde\t \/ \tPa\u00eds Vasco franc\u00e9s\t \/ \tPays Basque, Donostia\t \/ \tSan Sebasti\u00e1n, Euskadi\t \/ \tPa\u00eds Vasco, Bilbao, Boise, Elko, 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